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THINK
GLOBALLY - ACT LOCALLY : Michael Kopelman
[ german version of this article
you'll find exclusive in the printed issue 3 / 05 of stw2d! ]
Our title claim and theme throughout
this issue isnt about slamming globalization, nor is it
meant to stir negative feelings in our readers, nor is it meant
to whip you up in a frenzy and go smash up the next McDonalds
on next years May Day Riots. More than anything it is meant to
promote some more free form thinking in our readers and ourselves
which then can and should be applied to our surroundings. There
has been a lot of negative press surrounding the phenomena termed
globalization in recent years, that in combination
with an ever growing and merging European continent, combined
with an economic recession in Europe has caused a downcast and
serious negative vibe among us. Additionally, politicians seem
to have nothing more on their agenda than to get re-elected by
any means necessary, and that does sadly include stirring up
old fears such as losing ones national identity, racial, ethical
and religious differences and economic hardship and things dont
look to brightly. However, dont let yourself get fooled
into depression and helplessness. Sure, the incredible amount
of information that we are bombarded with on a daily basis mostly
cause a feeling of overwhelming helplessness, since everywhere
we turn we are confronted with disdain. Yet, that is exactly
where our theme comes in. First the bad news though, no one is
going to help you make things better. Secondly, it is entirely
up to you to change your own state of mind, your situation and
the situation around you. Dont let the mass media fool
you, you can change things and make them work for you, which
is how we came to the decision to talk to Michael Kopelman, and
not just because Stüssy is turning 25 and is driving everybody
nuts with their 25 special collaborations. Lets be honest,
generally the opinion in our industry is that things arent
too great and that it used to be all better before. Even though
that might be a semi-accurate statement, there are people and
brands out there that make it work for themselves. It is a question
of strategic approach, philosophy and execution that sets brands
like Stüssy, Gimme5, Supreme, PAM, Visvim, Good-Enough and
A Bathing Ape apart from the rest. Michael Kopelman is the man
behind all these brands in Europe, and consequently is also the
man that made London and thus the whole of Europe that what it
is today. What would London be without stores such as HIDEOUT,
Foot Patrol, A BATHING APE BUSY WORK SHOP and the Stüssy
Store? Those stores and the brands they carry have always stood
at the epicentre of all thats exciting, cool and wanted
in London and Europe and they are all incarnations of Michaels
doing. Not only does he sell & represent these brands but
hes actively involved in their design and marketing, a
part of the whole. It might well that Michael took a lot from
his Japanese peers when it comes to long term thinking and planning
that sets him apart from the rest of the industry and now ensures
his success. He took what he saw on his travels around the world,
the things he was taught and told from friends and peers such
as James Jebbia and Hiroshi Fujiwara and applied it to his home,
London. It is Michaels continuous success story that embodies
our title claim more than anything else. It is possible to use
the positive aspects of globalization as long as you can balance
them out on your local level. I had the opportunity to meet up
with Michael in London and talk to him about what it means to
think globally and to act locally, how it worked it for him and
his business, the Stüssy 25th Anniversary and why in time
of perceived recession hes smiling.
Stw2d: How did it all start
for you?
Michael
Kopelman: I grew up in the 60s and 70s and was obsessed
with pop music, pop culture and clothes. I spent my first pocket
money on records. I always loved comic books, cartoons and anything
that was of the moment.
I worked for a commodities company after leaving school at 18.
My father got me the job there and I started as a messenger/
tea boy. I worked there for 12 years and I did many different
jobs. I often used to go home after work and sleep so that I
could go out later and check out music in clubs or concerts and
DJ. It is hard to believe but Hip Hop was really underground
at the time and there were only about 3 people in all of London
who had two decks and a mixer to DJ with, it just wasnt
done. There werent that many DJs at the time in London,
hardly any at all and I used to play at WAG Club in Soho (now
closed), it had two floors, one played house music and we used
to play upstairs in what they then called the Rare Groove
floor. We used to play with the guys from Soul 2 Soul and that
was the summer of love in England, people started taking ecstasy
and craziness like that.
Sartorial correctness was vital and I was always keen to have
the best stuff I could lay my hands on. This could be anything
from street stuff to high fashion Japanese stuff to second hand.
My parents were living in NYC during this time and I went over
a lot. I had a great friend from London James Lebon who
was working there as a hairdresser. We hung out and I met a lot
of great people like Jules Gayton, Paul Mittleman, Tim Easton,
Albert Ragusa and Lysa Cooper, for example. I got to learn a
lot about NYC by being there through the 80s. James Lebon
used to be on the door of the first Hip Hop club in London, the
Language Lab he was the 1st rapping hairdresser (Sexify
You). I was always into music. We got into the culture through
music. New York was a really exciting place to be in the early
80s.
I used to get boxes of clothes
from Stüssy at work, and people, especially those I was
working with, just didnt understand it all. In London to
wear Stüssy was a very big deal, wearing American streetwear
back then was completely new and different, something, in a way,
we could make our own. Stüssy was right in the middle of
that. I had a leather track suit from Run DMC that I bought in
Fulton St. Market which Tim Simmon borrowed and wore in his Bomb
the Bass video. My friend James had custom made MCM track suits,
custom made shoes, which, at the time, was crazy, but that was
what it was all about. I just really wanted to be involved in
the culture.
I thought about what I wanted to do when I was made redundant,
and I went over to California to see Shawn and talk to him about
what he was doing. I thought that I could probably really make
the business work for him here in London.
I knew Paul Mittleman from NYC, he had been over a few times
before and he was working for Shawn already. I had been part
of a DJ tour for Shawn Stüssy in Japan. I re-met Hiroshi
Fujiwara there I met him 1st in Camden we were
both buying the same records! Shawn was a really great friend
and inspiration for me.
As his business wasn't working in the UK I wanted to work for
him. I had some severance money and I started my own t-shirt
/ distribution company called Gimme5. I represented Stüssy,
Hysteric Glamour and Judy Blame. I also brought in Levis jeans
and Jackets (the Vintage Japanese collections) over to the UK.
There was no going back to wearing a suit every day!
You
brought over the Vintage Levis to the UK?
Levis had no idea of their heritage, they
didnt know about selvedge denim at the time, they didnt
know about the Big Es, they knew nothing. Levis Japan
had the original looms and were making amazing denim in Japan!
You could buy it there and re-sell the denim in London because
people just loved the vintage clothing, especially the authentic
old, deadstock Levis. It was a big deal to have those at
the time. I remember being on an American plane and the stewardess
saw the box I had with original Levis in a box with a price
tag on it, and when she saw it, she went mental, because the
jeans nearly cost as much as her monthly wage at the time. People
would pay between 300GBP and 400GBP then for a pair.
Who and what were some of
the influences that made you want to get into this business?
Shawn Stüssy was a huge influence on me.
He took me to Japan and I met a lot of great people there. I
already knew Paul Mittleman from my time in New York and through
him I had also met fellow London boy James Jebbia, the owner
of the Stüssy Store in New York and President of the enigma
that is Supreme. I think his work is a credit to Stüssy-
I love his New York store.
I really like Hiroshi Fujiwara.
We share a love of music, film, snacks, magic, parasites and
other crazy stuff. We began working together on the GoodEnough
brand. I took a lot of inspiration from him and his crew.
I also took lots of inspiration from Nobu Kitamura from Hysteric
Glamour. I was making Hysteric Glamour clothing as well as GoodEnough
product in the UK. I worked with many brands in the Nineties
like Mr. Freedom, Haze, GFS, Supreme and Christopher Nemeth.
What do you perceive Stüssy
to be?
You can find the answer and much more interesting
stuff exclusively in the printed issue of stw2d!
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